Subject: Re: [Fwd: An idea...(considering gods and their avatars)]
From: joshua 'hook' corning (hook@u.washington.edu)
Date: Fri Nov 19 1999 - 12:47:01 EET
Atte Koivula wrote: > > -- > _/_ > /Atte "Yorkaturr" Koivula <yorkaturr@majik3d.org> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: An idea...(considering gods and their avatars) > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:46:58 +0200 > From: Sinister Serpent <sinister.serpent@sci.fi> > Organization: Nightside Horde > To: yorkaturr@majik3d.org > References: <3834FA32.DE8EC320@majik3d.org> > > Atte Koivula wrote: > > I came up with an idea when I was out smoking in the -10 temperature. > > What > > if the Gods couldn't physically enter the mortal dimension of Majik > > without > > being summoned by a mortal follower with some complex ritual? > > > > I think it would nicely restrict the amount of harm the Gods could do in > > the world, and you all probably know the old cliché about a crazy > > fanatic > > priest calling a powerful evil spirit through some dimensional gate, and > > the adventurers who are sent to stop the process before it's too late... > > or > > else the world will be destroyed etc (some examples of this are Elric, > > and > > the tv-show Xena, and the movie Conan the Destroyer). Also, it would > > motivate the mortals to learn religious magic as they would have a > > chance > > to meet their God who would reward them for such allegiance. And if the > > mortal follower of another God could then banish the God to the > > spiritrealm > > once again, it would encourage religious wars etc. I mean like, the > > Archbishop of Evil calls me upon the world, then the priests of Dazzt > > find out I'm present, by noticing some great disturbance in the Force > > (:P), and run around trying to catch my mortal form and cast a powerful > > Dispel Evil on me, and they would also send a group of great paladins to > > rid the world of my priests so that they couldn't commit such crime > > again. Meanwhile, the Evil Gods would send some undead/demon army to > > attack all good temples on the world so that no-one could harm me etc. > > And the God would be in the world for as long as he/she would get > > banished temporarily. > > > > The Gods would still have their mundane avatars hidden in some (un)holy > > places around the world, but they would be just very very tough NPCs > > unless > > the Gods' spirits would control them. > > Yes, this sounds very good indeed. First I thought that "What the hell? > What happened to the Avatars?" but they were explained here, too. > And those examples were very good indeed (I remember especially that > summoning in Conan the Destroyer -movie and that really was great). > But back to the point... > I think that Avatars should not exists in the world as npc's ever, > instead, these avatars would be these "summonable" creatures and avatars > of really powerful gods (at least gods and greater gods) could enter the > world by themselves in certain occasions (ie. maybe there is a great war > going on and god of war, Harum, could then enter the world because the > MIGHT/POWER/"FORCE" is so great in the world that it would work as a > 'portal' for Harum and thus he could enter the world of mortals). > Of course, this descending of an Avatar should be *very rare* unless > especially summoned by a mortal through a religious ritual and if these > rituals were disturbed (or otherwise failed) they could accidentally > open a portal to another dimension possibly, maybe to a such dimension > with horrible demons, for example. One idea for the differences between summoned avatars and god comming to earth avatars is that it costs alot of god-points (i forgot the real name) for a god to come to mortal plain at will but if they are summoned it costs little or no points. This way if a lesser god wants to make it to mortal plain he can get some sap to help him out. But the elder gods have enough points to do it but at a great cost. I would also like to stress that it should be very hard to summon a god. Special componants are needed (like in conan it was that horn thing and it had to be placed on the statue at a certian time) and a good well learned priest should have to be there. Im sure there are more ways to make this hard for mortals to do but i can't think of any at the moment. Joshua 'hook' corning hook@majik3d.org
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