Subject: Re: A summary of things decided
From: Kim Kunnas (beregar@majik3d.org)
Date: Fri Dec 17 1999 - 10:46:08 EET
Are these things 100% accepted now so we can write files about them. (Answer no is not accepted j/k :P) On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Kaoru Shalamberidze wrote: > > Contents of this mail are based on the majik 'pikkujoulu' con and a > converstation that has involved atleast : Mandor, Yokraturr, Dazzt, > Namhas, Harum, Beregar, Brethel, Mirithil, Malekith, some parts are > also 'chatted straight' with Hook and Eleril. > > The purpose of this mail is to wrap up some decisions and give them the > absolute final stamp of "approved". End of debate and bullshit. > > The stuff presented here : > > 1. Nature of magic / structure of reality > 2. Spells > 3. Events behind the creation > 4. The elder gods > 5. The new gods > 6. The ancients > 7. Men > 8. War of gods > 9. Power levels > 10. Kinetics between gods > 11. The sages > 12. Divine points and power mechanisms > 13. Avatars > 14. Flying rooms > 15. NPC's > 16. Starting player list > 17. The cataclysm > 18. Timeline of events in Majik > > > All this stuff here HAS BEEN DECIDED these are NOT proposals. > > --- > > 1. Nature of magic and structure of reality > > Just like in quantum physics, also the majik universe consists of very > small parts. These are the parts that from reality. Also the basic idea > and force behind magic. They can be called Vim, Vis, Magical Force, Prime > Particles, or what ever you will. Lets you Prime Particles or PP in this > description. Just like small quantum particles form quarks, protons, atoms > etc. In the same way PP's form patterns and patterns from pattern groups. > These patterns construct things like time, matter, energy, mind, spirit, > space, soul, entropy, etc, etc.. all the spheres/symbols/domains or what > ever you want to call them. Everything within the creation is based on > PP's and patterns. They are building blocks of reality and existence. > > When the elder gods created the universe they designed it to work on these > basics, there was no magic before this event. Thus elder gods created > magic. And they know exactly how the universe works. They see beyond the > normal illusion of existence, they know what is beyond. > > The whole concept of magic is mislead, since there is no such thing, magic > is the same as reality. Same as our atoms and leptons, quarks and bosons. > The only difference is that in the universe of majik the gods made it > possible to see the patterns forming everyhting and they also made it > possible for those with skill to manipulate the patterns. That leads us > to: > > 2. Spells > > Also the concept of spells is a bit mislead. It is as obscure are things > like "skill" "talent" "attitude" etc.. in real life. Magic is the act of > manipulating reality, or to be more precise the act of manipulating the > patterns that form reality. Almost none - NOT EVEN the new gods are able > to manipulate everything by manipulating single PP's, that is a vast power > usually only in the hands of elder gods. This is a meta-physical base > level dealing directly with the base components of reality. Same magical > effects can be generated by perhaps a 100 different ways, thus there isnt > any one spell like "fireball" the effects similar to "fireball" can be > generated by many different reality-manipulative ways, like : changing the > energy patterns to create fire, transmuting matter to energy, transporting > fire from future/past to the present, transporting fire from another place > to this place.. etc.. Players have to able to create their own > combinations and their own "spells".. a player mage can invent a > comnination that changes reality and gives a fireball-like effect as a > result and then he can label that as 'fireball' and cast it as suchs on > later day. > > 3. Events behind the creation > > First there was Namhas alone in the void. After him came Aluna, Dalia and > Sinister. Aluna being 'white' Dalia being 'grey' and Sinister being > 'black' After them came their descedants, Dazzt, Mandor, Harum and > Yorkaturr. Dalia got too close to Sinister and started being more black > than grey, this resulted in Aluna killing Dalia. These events took > namaless eons in the world of the void. Also while in the void the gods > experiemented, created servants, did their doings for many millena. After > eons of age Namhas decided that it was time for something greater, time to > start the creation. Gods pretty much destroyed or abandoned their old > affairs and servants, bahished them in the abyss. These 7 beings, namhas, > aluna, sinister, dazzt, mandor, harum and yorkaturr constructed the > universe and did the creation. They based the structure on prime particles > and alloved them to be manipulated, thus creating magic (above) they built > the whole creation based on similar rules - which however where on their > own everchanging hands. The rest of this history follows in Majik time > line. > > 4. The elder gods > > Elder gods are the most powerful beings in the creation - pretty much > because its their own bloody creation :).. Their true forms can never > exist in the creation, they always have their true forms in the world of > the void. They always use avatars of projections to interact with the > creation, thou they can manipulate the creation even from the void. Their > true form can never be visible, material or anything alike. Their true > forms cannot be touched by anything in the creation, and thus they never > can be even harmed - except by each other. Only another elder gods can > really harm another. New gods or other beings can destroy the avatars of > elder gods, if they have enough power to do that - but just wait a while > and that elder god you just killed is back with even meaner avatar :) with > a venegance. Elder gods arent just only beings, but also forces that are > at work in the universe. Yorkaturr the god of death IS death in every > sense. When somebody dies Yorkaturr is there to take him away. The same > thing goes for Mandor, when sun has set his presence fills the world in > the form of darkness. The portions of elder gods overlap somewhat, but > that is ment to be so. > > 5. The new gods > > New gods are the first servants and 'assistant powers' created by the > elder gods to control and manage the creation. The new gods now in > god-level power are the most promising ones of those ever made, they have > managed to survive for a very very long time, and they have considerable > power. Most powerful of them have about the same power and influence over > the creation as do the elder gods - witch the exception that they are part > of the creation, not outside it like the elder gods. They can be killed > and they can never exist in the primodial world of the void. > > 6. The ancients > > The ancients are former new gods or beings who took the form of flesh. > They avoided the war of gods by doing this. Their share in the order of > things has become a smaller one over time. But they are the ancestors of > some races that dwell the world today. Sages belong to this race of the > ancients. Today after the cataclysm they are few in existence. > > 7. Men > > Humanity was created in the middle of the war of gods by new gods. They > created humans to aid them, to ally with them, and to feed them power. > Humanity worshipped the new gods and gave them power. Since the patterns > of life, soul, spirit and mind are powerfulones, this would have been a > good plan - it they ever would have had any change of winning the elder > gods. Some of the mannish races were also created by the elder gods, but > this was at a later date, after new gods created the first of men. > > 8. War of gods > > Some time after the creation the servants of elder gods (new gods) started > to disagree with their masters, they even abandoned them in some cases. > There were very many spirits/new gods in exitence and only those 7 old > geezer gods. Some of the spirits started to gather knowledge and power, > make war with each other and so on. When they finally got powerful enough > they turned against the elder gods. They got very powerhungry and had > severe delusions of grandeour. The war lasted a very long time. Partly > because the elder gods had very little interest in it :).. and the end > result was clear, new gods lost. After the war elder gods forced new gods > to take responsibilities within the creation. And they did so partly by > their own will too. World came to a new order and has stayed as such. > > 9. Power levels > > I elder gods - namhas > II elder gods - sinister and aluna > III elder gods - dazzt, mandor, harum and yorkaturr > > IV new gods - god level > V new gods - lesser god level > VI new gods - demigod level > > VII the ancients and the sages > > Within the levels there ofcourse exists quite view differences, but these > are the major brakepoints in power. > > 10. Kinetics between gods > > Kinetics of power between mandor, harum and yorkaturr are interesting. > They change almost constantly, since these 3 sons step on each others toes > and partly overlap sinisters domain aswell. Yorkaturr also dislikes both > his brothers, but doesnt dislike sinister. The 3 brothers rarely unite, > rarely work together or towards a single goal. They even fight somewhat > with each other to 'shake things out' > > There also exists a nice balance between Dazzt and the 3 brothers. Dazzt > is the most powerful of elder god-level gods, He alone against any one > single person of the 3 brothers and dazzt would win. But 2 brothers united > can beat Dazzt. But since the 3 dont much do things together the balance > stays. There also is link between Yorkaturr and Dazzt.. since there is no > death without life and no life without death. All healing also requires > dying and dying requires healing. This group of 4 gods tend to avoid each > other alot. > > 11. The sages > > The sages are ancients who took the form of "flesh" the form doesnt have > to exactly flesh, but it cant be that of celestial spirit either. Sages > are ancient creatures all the way from the time before the war of gods. > They watched and learned while others did war, and it was the sages who > first predicted the loss of the new gods. The sages today interact with > gods and other powers on daily basis. Sages help them, inform them, serve > them etc.. or just simply hang around with them. Some sages are even older > than some god-level new gods. And almost certainly older than any demigod > in existence. Their knowledge is vast and their insight great. And they > know the act of manipulating reality very well indeed. And they know gods, > some of them even personally. > > 12. Divine points and power mechanisms > > Elder gods have _VAST_ number of dinive points and power. They dont need > to be worshipped as much to get more of them either. An elder god might > even step outside the creation and summon a huge pile of power and then > come back - thus effectively generating power from thin air. But usually > its too much of a hassle and they have enough power anyways. There also is > a power mechanism behind the flow of divine points, much like a pyramid > effect in network marketing or something. Eventually everythig will end up > to namhas, all good to aluna and all bad to sinister. Elder gods can also > draw power from beyond this reality (creating from thin air) Elder gods > also have a huge number of woshippers. The power comes flowing from down > to up. From the lowest demigod all the way up to namhas. > > New gods have more narrow domains than elder gods, and they DO NOT have > the ability to drain power from cources outside this reality. But they are > high in the chain-of-power mechanism, that means that they will get quite > much power aswell. However even they can't never fully understand the > creation and this reality as good as can those who made it (the elder > gods). > > 13. Avatars > > Elder gods in the reality always use avatars. What is a true form to a new > gods is simply just a prime-avatar for an elder god. Also the earthly > avatars of gods exist in the world all the time. There are some nodes or > places of power where the skeleton of Yorkaturr sits silently on his > throne. When Yorkaturr takes that form it awakens. These avatars can be > summoned by powerful ritual that tear reality apart and cause these things > to happen. So it is possible to an avatar of Harum without the spirit of > harum being inside it. Also death may come to avatars, as well as all > other things in the creation. Gods are pretty hard to kill thou.. > > 14. Flying rooms > > There was 2 "flying rooms" but they were NOT at any point called 'flying > rooms' instead in stories there exist names like 'celestial castles' > 'floating mountains' 'celestial mountains' 'sky cities' 'places of origin' > etc etc.. The 2 flying thingies were created by new gods in the mids of > the war of gods. The other place contained all 'goodie' races like > ordinary men, elves etc.. the other contained monster races, and evil ones > like trolls. They were 2 huge flying inverted mountains that were kept in > hiding from the elder gods and that crashed to the soil of the world. > >From these places of origin the races spread all over the world. > > 15. NPC's > > We dont want dumpass stupid NPC's to run everything. So they are used as > little as possible. But they ARE used as assistants and servants by the > players. A player own a bakery - he hires a few dumpass NPC's to run it > while he isnt online etc.. We try to create as good AI as possible for > NPC's and even better and heavier one for NPC monsters who play a much > bigger role than assistants. Hopefully players want to run everything > themselfs and hopefully we have enough players to do that. > > 16. Starting player list > > We decided to gather a list of maybe 500-2000 players that are COMITTED to > play the game once it opens. The game starts right after the events of the > cataclysm and these 500-2000 players are the ones that build the base of > the world again. After they have done enough the game is really opened for > everyone. By the time this happens the 500-2000 players will be respected > elders, land lords or other old geezers or powerful heroes, helping > newbies and perhaps dominating part of them - but hey thats the way it > goes. We advertise alot and gather a good 500+ names for this cataclysm > launch of events. > > 17. The cataclysm > > Events of the cataclysm went as follows : > > - The background events are deep in history. There existed several > powerful beings and creatures that all developed towards this event > with or without their own knowledge. > - After countless years they started forming groups, one was sinisters > covenant, and one the sinisters group of liches, there were others > aswell, many others, no one really knows them all since all these > groups were secretive and shady. Some smaller groups formed > alliances and grew bigger. > - They tested their powers against each others and played with great > affairs. They battled over things like people, artifacts, knowledge, > wealth.. etc.. everything. > - This testing escalated into more serious competition and fraction. > - By this time the different groups had much influence among humanity > and the undead. They started to increase and abuse their power > in a great scale of things. > - The first negative effects hit the lesser new gods > - The groups started an all out war and grew ever stronger in power > - They started to attract a huge volume of devoted followers for > their ideals, which were forexample atheism and satanism + others. > People grew more ignorant towards the gods and more supportive > towards their powerful leaders, the different wizardy cabals. > Who gave them something of value and a sense of greater purpose. > - As more effects backfired on gods they started to realise that this > all wasnt a good thing > - The cabals and their followers went offensive and started to really > resist the gods and the old ways. > - The new gods started to resist and fight back, only to find that > the elder gods, mainly the evil trio of mandor, harum and yorkaturr > were almost entirely behind all this. Mandor feeding hunger for power, > harum waging for war and yorkaturr harvesting the dead. > - Good gods like Dazzt and other lesser ones started a campaign to > help humanity from falling apart. Their efforts were eventually > lost however. > - The ranks of new gods started to fall apart. Most of their worshippers > were now gone or against them. Much of their support and power was > gone from their reach. They tried even harder to do something > about it but they had too much resistance from the evil elder > gods, and the the 9 horsemen of evil. > - The workings of the cabal lead to open war of demons and other beings > the undead roamed the world and the 9 horsemen caused havoc. > - World escalated towards chaos as the new gods abandoned their duties > and because of that even more things started to go wrong. The > powerhungry cabals had managed to destroy sages, ancients and even > few new gods. The real destruction started about this time. > - New gods whined beyond anything before. But it was the will of the > elders that let humanity destroy themselfs - simply because they > are such an assess. Conclave of gods decided to do nothing. Sit and > watch as puny humans destroy themselfs. > - All the evil creatures of the world finally came out of hiding and > joined the symphony of destruction, also good paladins and great > holy warriors tried to slay the evil ones. But it was the core > of the people that was rotten and what caused the most of the > destruction. > - Chaos, disorder and madness swept throught the world. > Apocalyptic events took place. > - Humanity got their share of extreme natural phenomenon, diseases, > madness and chaos. As en end result amnesia came. > - After their leaders gone and the world in ruins the people still > remember some of the old ways and might even return to those paths. > > 18. Timeline in the world of majik > > - Namhas in the void > - Aluna, Dalia and Sinister > - Birth of Dazzt, Mandor, Harum and Yorkaturr > - Destruction of Dalia > - Abandoning of the voidal life > - The creation > - Creation of servant spirits > - The ways separate to new gods, ancients and sages > - Plantlife and the world is created > - Sinister freezez the world in his fate of the sun > - Aluna defrobs the world, mostly > - Sinister takes the great mirror > - The new gods start to gather power and might > - The war between gods start > - Sinister brakes his great mirror, demons enter the world > - New gods create humanity > - Elder gods find out but dont care > - Elder gods create few species of their own > - The war escalates into a point where the new gods are powerless > - Elder gods win, the world takes a new order > - Prosperous times follow, humanity grows and life is beautiful > - The powerhungry cabals start to get formed > - Their struggle escalates into a war > - The chaos begins > - Gods decide to do nothing > - The cataclysm takes place > - Now > > This timeline is only a pretty quick draft =) this should be filled in > more perfectly at a later time. But iv been writing this damn mail for > like 2 hours now, id like very much to finish this. > > .mandor > >
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