Subject: Re: Ancients
From: Jonathan Koehn (Eleril) (dgkoehn@gbasin.net)
Date: Tue Oct 12 1999 - 00:52:37 EEST
(Eleril) eleril@majik3d.org ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Koehn (Eleril) <dgkoehn@gbasin.net> To: <majik-design@majik3d.org> Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Ancients > > (Eleril) eleril@majik3d.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Taneli Tikka <ttikka@icon.fi> > To: <majik-design@majik3d.org> > Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 12:51 PM > Subject: Re: Ancients > > > > > > > > On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Beregar wrote: > > > > > Of course some of the Ancients probably died in battle, but others left > > > for some reason or another. > > > > > > to make things more clear: > > > > > > - The Ancients = God like spirits who became flesh (power = lesser God) > > > both before and after battle since they > didn't get power > > > from other spirits. > > > - New Gods = God like spirits who started a battle between them and > > > the Elder Gods, they also remained in heavens > and kept > > > growing in power (power = lesser God - God. > > > - Ancients/Ancient beings = New Gods, the Ancients, the Elder Gods, > > > ancient creatures (dragons). > > > > Whats the idea behind making ancients born after the creation so poweful, > > only lesser gods and gods, no demigods? and all their power is supposed to > > come from variety of spirits? theyll need a huge pile of them then :).. > > > > The whole spirit idea sounds a bit like the creatus would be without their > > own will - or that they would lack any real soul and just be a collection, > > a whirlwind of weak souls.. without any deeper essence. > > Say if they where made of spirits. They(The Ancients(sages) ) would start > out as a child not knowing anything much but some about their 4 basic > spirits 2 good 2 evil. > 2 creature spirits and 2 plant the plant being magical nodes for them, and > the creature spirits being one of a legendary beast, and the other of ? . > And the 3rd spirit would be molded out of pure magic. It would be the > catalist for learning more. Also in it contained the thirst for more magic > to increase its being. Thus they searched for magic and after such a long > time they knew a variety of magic by the time the new races where formed. :) > just some ideas =) or they could have been created by the gods out of part of their own essence. they created only a few because it took a very long time to create one. And the ancients had children, they had to ask permission from the gods they where created from because when they had a child it would drain some of the gods essence. The gods decided that this drained them to much and thus created the new races. That didnt drain them at all. > > And arent atleast > > older gods supposed to be vastly powerful souls with very personal > > perspectives and ambitions.. > > > > just that a god made up of near-mindless plant spirits isnt that appealing > > :).. why wont we go for something more creative than just addind weak > > souls to own collectives. > > > > This brings us back to magic - if magic builds the world - then the > > building block of reality is magic. Everything - EVERYTHING in existence > > is created from particles of magical essence. magic isnt something > > unnatural - magic is the foundation of natural - everything. > > instead of collecting weak spirits the ancients could have drained the > > very pieces his opponent was made of - and re-molded his own reality into > > more powerful frames. > > > > other option would be absorbin the essence of life from them - but life, > > or patters of life are just built up from the same stuff - magical > > essence. it builds up everything, living and dead, all the energies, all > > the things that cannot be seen or explained. > > > > And magic only is something namhas and the gods made up as they created > > the world. they found the ultimate base building block the magical essence > > of everything - and then constructed the whole creation from that same > > stuff.. molding it to other patterns and colorful forms. Also spirits > > would have spirit-patterns made of magical-base-essence.. but true born > > gods or those fully transformed into deities (ie. all regonized gods) > > would be build from not magical essence but some ethereal-eternal essence > > out-of-this-world.. that is the case for their true form, not for their > > incarnations which of course are made up like the world is create - based > > on patterns of magical essence, forming matter, flesh, energies, life, > > mind and spirit.. yes EVEN time. > > > > -m > > > > > >
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