Subject: Ancients
From: Beregar (
Date: Sun Oct 10 1999 - 11:15:11 EEST

Jonathan Koehn wrote:

> This is excellent it gives me a good idea of how it all is.
> Over time will some of the fauna in the various regions be added to common
> creatures or are they concidered unique to the region.
> Since it was told us that all none god designers, coders, graphic artist
> where to be sages.
> which was a nice piece of information. I was wondering if we where going to
> be put in as a non-player race or would we be left out as to be more
> mysterious.

You mean will sages be a npc race? Might be, but there should be
only individuals left in the normal world. Also, the remnants of their
cities, monuments etc should be scattered around the world in well
hidden and well guarded places. These cities could have strong
magical symbols and artifacts.

We still should decide why they dissapeared. Maybe they fought with
eachother, returned to their spirit form, leaved "beyond the Rim" (ie to
some other dimension ;) or maybe they were destroyed in the "God
wars". Perhaps we could use all of those. I mean, for example moon
elves sound very much like these Ancients and they reside in another

According to Hook,  the Ancients are "Greater spirits" which were
born when conscious beings died and their spirits melded together.
Furthermore some of these spirits became flesh and they were the
Ancients in mortal legends and those who remained in the spirit form
were the New Gods. There is one thing that bothers me - those
Ancient were formed from the animal (and plant?) spirits, they can't
be very intelligent unless we had very intelligent animals (those spirits
may have a lot of "processing" power together but they are probably
very animalistic).

Where do we get wisdom to these Ancients? Also, were there enough
these spirits for them to build cities? There should be a few cities of the
Ancient where 100-1000(?) Ancients lived.

It also remains question for me what was the original purpose of plants
and animals and the world itself? Is it place where the Gods made their
expiriments? It is obvious that the "species of man" were created
because the Elder Gods feared they would lose their fight with the new
Gods, but did the Elder Gods have also earlier intent to create them or
were they create only because otherwise the Elder Gods would have
lost battle wihtout them?

I guess that when these "species of man" started to die and their spirits
were absorbed to the New Gods, these started to became more wise
and intelligent. Probably in this stage most of the Ancients were already
destroyed and only most powerful New Gods and ancient races were
left. Still remaining ancients (races) might have returned to their spirit
form and eventually achieve status of a lesser God (Protector, Darshan
etc) and those who were spirits remained as the New Gods (Shinael,
Ocean god etc?).

Hopefully this mails is readable :)

- Beregar (

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