Designing (read or don't complain later)

From: beregar
Date: 2002-02-17 13:56:56

Firstly I would like to know current state of Majik's design. Who is designing, what and why? If I don't get replies to this thread from designers, I assume that no-one is working on any project and it is later quite useless to complain if something that I (or someone else) write overrides your design.

Secondly: We have a task management system, use it! Everything that is not mentioned in the task system, does not exist. It is not enough to mention it on the channels or forums because they are for discussion, task management system is for project management.

This applies as well to me as it applies to Darshan, Sweatshop and other designers. Also graphics designers (yes, graphics people are designers too!) should add their tasks into the task management system. Remember to keep things up to date!

These may sound pretty harsh rules but you must realize that not everyone can be aware of all that is discussed on the majik channel. Also, in the end this allows us to organize world design better.

Finally, if you have any comments, suggestions or constructive criticism regarding the subject, feel free to note it here. I will wait a week and if no-one has written comments or suggestions by then, I will declare all this decided.

- Beregar

From: sweatshop
Date: 2002-02-21 00:19:19
In-Reply-To: 739

I am designing:

-The Nemen predatory bird

I promise that next week I will be more active again. :)

From: sirdar
Date: 2002-02-19 09:43:26
In-Reply-To: 739

I am

1. Designing the starmap for the Majik.
2. Creating a system for Alchemy.
3. In general, bringing my real-physics based solutions to anything that needs it.

Yup. Most of the time I frown upon poor 'original' solutions. I rather have an existing good one. Therefore I rely my stuff mostly based in the real world. And believably no one has copyrighted the laws of physics, yet.

From: Nahl_Shadore
Date: 2002-02-19 03:42:07
In-Reply-To: 739

currently I am just designing my sage and worrying about university

I am thinking about rewriting/revising the gnomes race description (with Kaid's approval, of course)

From: raeky
Date: 2002-02-18 22:21:56
In-Reply-To: 739

I'm currently working on minerals and variaous plant/animal descripts that pop in my head,mostly unattached to any region yet, so region designers can use them.

I'm also working on alchemy and the things with that, Prolly more discussion will need to be done on exactly what the guidelines will be for it

its currently the art of useing energy contained in the earth for whatever purposes one wants. There is a good history that written that will likely end up in some scroll/book somewhere in the world, prolly a pre-cataismic library or the castle of some precataclismic magician or something. Other storys prolly need writen, since this art developed differently in different races/regions mostly independent of the others.

I'll write and design basic equipment needed and give rough outlines of how the equipment should be designed, since each race/region that developed alchemy would likely have different looking equipment/designs.

The areas that developed this art would need discussed, like which races, and which are independent, shared knowledge. And then i'll write up historys or someone else can, for these races, then write up chemical lists for them and formulas that can be learned by people who want to practice this art.

My sage character will be have basicly all knoweldge of all forms of alchemy, and depense the aproperate stuff to the right regions/people. Like i'll teach an orc the stuff that was developed by his race first, and maye later if he masters all of that other races, or he could learn from other players who have also learned alchemy.

I haven't really worked on any race/region description, Donno what is out there to be worked on, maybe someone should make some tasks for these.

An idea or the tasks system, an admin can add a task but not become the supervisor for it, have a supervisor perms and a supervisor can take on and supervise a task that has no superviser yet, once a task has a superviser it will be visible to us normal designers to take and start working on.. this would allow an admin to think up a bunch of stuff that needs done, punch tasks in for them, and then they can be designed as supervisers/designers have time.

From: Zaxim
Date: 2002-02-18 09:20:08
In-Reply-To: 739

I don't really understand about the task managment system? can you explain it a bit more? how do I access it?

From: ReSpawner
Date: 2002-07-23 15:32:10
In-Reply-To: 739

I am a pretty new designer so i am still kinda reading alot of posts and checking worldbook couse i want to learn how we are working here.

i will sometime rebuild my "Blood Herb" thingy.

cant we have a very big page filld with things that we need and restrict all the new stuff to the list, so we dont get stuff we dont need?

From: beregar
Date: 2002-02-17 22:20:28
In-Reply-To: 739

Well, of course I have to write all my stuff here too since I was the one yelling people to do so:

1st. Loribak isle project (includes Felmur race, some ruins, a node and scrying pool). Does anyone want to oversee this?

2nd. Unicorn grove and snakemen (includes description for the unicorns and snakemen, description for the grove and description for the snakemen ruins). Does anyone want to oversee this?

3rd. Templates. I need someone to oversee this and make suggestions but I won't remove the task as I've placed quite many journal entries there already.

4th. Misc stuff. This includes rewriting my historical race descs for Gwelthorians and Brahjian and refining all stuff which I wrote when I was young and stupid (now I'm just stupid :).

- Beregar

From: hook
Date: 2002-02-17 17:46:24
In-Reply-To: 739

I am

1.writting desc for messanger bird
2.manageing some tasks of other designers
3. coding a wildlife habitat and range calculator
4. and like drshn critisizing other ppls stuff

of course you can get this information from the task list. So why did you ask for this post agian?

-hook

From: hook
Date: 2002-02-17 17:49:23
In-Reply-To: 739

Secondly: We have a task management system, use it! Everything that is not mentioned in the task system, does not exist. It is not enough to mention it on the channels or forums because they are for discussion, task management system is for project management.

This applies as well to me as it applies to Darshan, Sweatshop and other designers. Also graphics designers (yes, graphics people are designers too!) should add their tasks into the task management system. Remember to keep things up to date!

Its funny that you are applying these rules now becouse I have been using them before you obviously thought of them. Please practice what you preach.

-hook

From: darshan
Date: 2002-02-17 14:45:25
In-Reply-To: 739

As far as world design goes, I am:
* Reiterating the chrein race
* Filling up the region formerly known as Thasia
* Criticizing other people's ideas

I haven't had any time to actually advance with the first two in a while.

From: namhas
Date: 2002-02-17 14:20:38
In-Reply-To: 739

Only those with "manager" permissions can add tasks there. Usually it is a good idea to let someone else to manager your task, so you will get your work checked and comments for free, as task manager's has to approve the thing before it can deemed to be finished. So you need to send mail to your nearest manager and tell whatever kind of task you want and write a journal entry each time you've added something to your project. Later then, if you become bored and don't have time to continue with the task, you can simply "resign" it so someone else could come and take it just from where you left it.

From: hook
Date: 2002-02-17 18:16:59
In-Reply-To: 742

Only those with "manager" permissions can add tasks there. Usually it is a good idea to let someone else to manager your task, so you will get your work checked and comments for free, as task manager's has to approve the thing before it can deemed to be finished. So you need to send mail to your nearest manager and tell whatever kind of task you want and write a journal entry each time you've added something to your project. Later then, if you become bored and don't have time to continue with the task, you can simply "resign" it so someone else could come and take it just from where you left it.

Namhas is absolutely right on this this one....for world design descriptions the manager and designer should be a differnent person. Namhas maybe you could code the task management system so that ppl cannot manage themselves at least for Non-development tasks. Also a designer should not take more then 3 tasks to work on and not more then 5 tasks to manage. And if a manger sees at least two weeks go by with no progress they should kick the designer so others can pick it up. So Beregar, drshn, yorka, could you please delete those tasks that you are manageing and designing then ask your fellow designers to post and manage the tasks that you are taking up?

-hook

From: beregar
Date: 2002-02-17 18:52:49
In-Reply-To: 746

Because a) not everyone is using it, b) it allows me to easily see who are designers and who are not and c) because not all designs are listed in the task management system (see part part a).

About tasks with people doing them themselves. Yes, your suggestion is good but what if some people are not ready to follow other people's tasks. Though I'm ready to oversee your tasks if you are to oversee mine.

- Beregar

From: Archantes
Date: 2002-02-17 20:01:15
In-Reply-To: 746

1. I am now writing the moon elves and elven history. (Dot)
2. I am posting to forum. (Dot)

That's all. Then, when I've finished it, I'll sneak and see if there is something to do. I suggest most of you to take one task at the time. That's my opinion

From: beregar
Date: 2002-02-17 18:48:04
In-Reply-To: 747

Yes, yes, this place is not for this conversation. We can argue about such things in the majik channel. This is for constructive criticism. Personal feuds can be fought in channels.

Besides, you are NOT everyone. Not every (supposed) designer uses task management system, I didn't even mention you at all. If it bugs your ego, not my problem, really. :)

- Beregar

From: origon
Date: 2002-02-18 11:47:33
In-Reply-To: 749

How about a 'suggest task' - function in the manager, and a manager can decide if it should be added or not?

From: hook
Date: 2002-02-17 19:57:46
In-Reply-To: 751

beregar wrote:
Though I'm ready to oversee your tasks if you are to oversee mine.

I already have a manager for the one design description I am working on. Namhas is the manager. I asked him to be. If you want someone to take over as manager for a task you want to do I can probably take one of the three you have up there. I already am manageing at least 2 tasks and I want to keep it below 4. But I'm sure if you asked around you could find someone else to manage the other 2 tasks.

If you or anyone else has an idea for a task that you want to do then post the idea here on the forums with a request for a manager. example:

"I want to design a bla bla man. Here are the requirments for it:

1 bla
2 bla bla
3 bla

When these are met it will be complete.

Could someone take up the management of this and post the task up on the task managment page?"

Anyway you get the idea.

-hook